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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #15 on: Jan. 29, 2007, 09:11:57 PM »
See, I've wondered about the difficulty of today's students versus when I was in college. It's just something that caught my interest a while back. Not just solely on the distraction of a video game, but the Internet. Some of the gaming forums I used to visit I would see college students spending way too much time on there, and I would think back to when I was in college myself and I'd wonder, "What if I knew about forums and had high speed internet access from home back then?"

When I was in college, I gave up TV, movies, my game magazine subscriptions, video games, all that stuff, and I was pretty much there all day, and sometimes Sundays. Finally when I started my major in Computer Science and minor in Physics, I went from "C" student, to "A" student, to Dean's list, etc. That's what it took. Tough discipline and sacrifice.

Oh, while we're at it, here's the secret right before the big exam, midterm, whatever:  A can of Coke or Cafe Mocha to drink down a Snickers bar... It works like a charm, everytime!

Anyhow, I look back at that now though, and I say, shit, I was fortunate to have been able to avoid all the pitfalls the Internet can lead one to... You young'un's though, you're all fucked. ;) See, there wasn't much to do with a shitty 28 kbps modem as we had back then, so you didn't discover all these distractions the Internet has to offer. Somehow, even at the university's computers I avoided getting caught up in anything. Mostly, I still thought of a computer as a business tool, not no socializing network like with IRC, BBS, etc. It must've helped I guess that browsers sucked and you mostly just used them for research.

Now High School, I'm lucky to have made it through. I was still a hardcore gamer then. Every lunch period, every study period, I was off pumping quarters in Street Fighter 2 and/or Mortal Kombat machines, etc. I was a terrible student, naturally. The only thing that I have to remember from that period as well as my NES/SNES days is sore, arthritic thumb and index finger joints.

upper division I understand, but lower division also? come on man, almost everyone I knew just gamed non-stop when they were in lower-div. Now upper division is a different story.

I guess you mean to say that they were managing it? Yeah, if your goal is to simply "get by," that works. My interest is I just wonder how much better their grades would've been. I would be impressed with those that still managed to get high GPAs. I also wonder now with the Internet, how much more difficult it is for today's batch of students, etc. The amount of distractions having so vastly increased since '96, I know I couldn't have handled it. They gotta have it tough these days, bottomline.


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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #16 on: Jan. 29, 2007, 10:06:20 PM »
Yes, the internet is a horrible thing. D:
I'm browsing this forum instead of working on catching up on the work I missed...
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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #17 on: Jan. 30, 2007, 02:07:46 PM »
Oh, while we're at it, here's the secret right before the big exam, midterm, whatever:  A can of Coke or Cafe Mocha to drink down a Snickers bar... It works like a charm, everytime!

Having caffeine and sugar rush at the same time WOULD help you analyze and recall things better but if you had nothing in you to begin with it means nothing. So in the end you still have to learn your stuff first. While we're at it, I think it really depends on the person we're talking about. Like my first year roommate was this hindi guy who would just game all day non-stop. He would skip classes to sleep in for those morning classes and then learn the stuff later while doing homework. But the thing was, he still pulled off As. And I was like "dude, that's so not cool man." And here I was just studying an hour or two each day (I admit it's not a lot, but it's a habit you have to keep up) and barely got B's. I would say certain people requires different studying environments. Some people need to be quiet while studying, others need music to study or else they get bored. I guess it varies from peopel to people.



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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #18 on: Jan. 30, 2007, 04:40:50 PM »
It also depends on what degree you are going for. I went for CMSC, and most everything related to computers comes pretty easy for me, so I didn't really need to study much for any CMSC classes. Other classes needed a lot more work though (stupid Japanese).

Everyone learns differently though. Some people just pick stuff up easy, and some people need to study a lot to get anywhere.

I spent a lot of time playing games in college and still did well. It's mostly just about time budgeting and knowing that work comes before play. Too many people don't take classes seriously enough, especially in their first year.

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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #19 on: Jan. 30, 2007, 04:56:41 PM »
Having caffeine and sugar rush at the same time WOULD help you analyze and recall things better but if you had nothing in you to begin with it means nothing.

Yeah, uh, I wasn't arguing otherwise... Drinking sugar and caffeine is not a way to drink in knowledge. You know it was partly a playful comment, not an end all be all I trust.

But there you go folks, you heard it here first in case you got the wrong idea with what I said. Captain Obvious to the rescue. ;)

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While we're at it, I think it really depends on the person we're talking about. Like my first year roommate was this hindi guy who would just game all day non-stop. He would skip classes to sleep in for those morning classes and then learn the stuff later while doing homework. But the thing was, he still pulled off As. And I was like "dude, that's so not cool man." And here I was just studying an hour or two each day (I admit it's not a lot, but it's a habit you have to keep up) and barely got B's. I would say certain people requires different studying environments. Some people need to be quiet while studying, others need music to study or else they get bored. I guess it varies from peopel to people.

Well, I'm not quite sure where you're going with this. I wouldn't formulate a general, well-meaning piece of advice based on your Hindu friend where I'd recommend playing video games nonstop. If I thought he represented a significant segment of the student body, I wouldn't have my opinion and I think we'd have much higher graduating GPA results to show for it.

Sure, you're gonna have above average folks like your friend, that have very good retention. The knowledge has to come from somewhere, as we've well established. So, if he was pulling A's all the time, he needed very little study time because of his retention and intelligence level. To state the obvious, it sounds like he was a smart dude.

Of course there are exceptions to norms, and therefore certain individuals can still be productive in environments you wouldn't normally expect them to be in. If Zapages told me, nah, I'm pulling A's & B's actually, there wouldn't be much else to say. He's got his formula for success, and that's cool. But what I'm speaking to is a formula that led to my early success, that is general sound advice, and is meant for someone whose grades aren't above par dealing with distractions that are hard to break, etc. It need not apply to your friend that you brought up. I wanna say to those that are just squeaking by, recognize that this is your last chance to prove to yourself that you can be not just a good student, but a great student. After you come out of there, you wanna be able to show your first potential employer that you were a cut above, with 3.5 GPA & above, etc.

Anyway, based on his response, he's not at the level your friend was. I know I have my regrets from allowing such distractions in High School to drag me down. I got nothing to show for those hardcore gamer days expect bad grades, and it wasn't until college that I took a tough stance and turned myself around. If you're not doing well, you gotta look at what is distracting you and seriously analyze it because one day when you're older, you're gonna wish you did things differently.

My spider sense tells me there was some friction here and while I'm not sure why, I'll simply say that we really had nothing to argue about if we're talking about someone that is already getting good grades. Though, I certainly don't believe and it's not been my experience as an observer to conclude there is an even handed mix of folks that can come out productive while in counter-productive environments or doing counter-productive things versus those that take the opposite, more intuitive approach.


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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #20 on: Jan. 30, 2007, 09:32:53 PM »
^^ nah, no arguements here, i was just discussing my point of view, but with a standard of 3.5, that's like grad school quality of course people will look at you differently.



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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #21 on: Jan. 30, 2007, 10:06:29 PM »
but with a standard of 3.5, that's like grad school quality of course people will look at you differently.

Yup and that's what you want. :) Start letting go of some distractions if you're not there now.


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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #22 on: Jan. 31, 2007, 01:15:54 AM »
hmm... I remember similar case to night.  Back when i started college in 93 there wasnt much of a good means to the net from either school or home. Also in the same boat i quit playing games from 93-2000.  It worked wonders for the gpa. was a 3.995 in college but in high school i couldnt break 3.0 until my senior year. When i started working though and finished community college, i got a little insane and decided i could do ASU and work full time together...  98-2000 were just a blur now. After finishing all that education i found i had no interest in most games and found i only really came back to Ys. in the end though it has all paid off...
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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #23 on: Jan. 31, 2007, 08:17:28 AM »
After finishing all that education i found i had no interest in most games and found i only really came back to Ys. in the end though it has all paid off...

Yeah, that's sorta my experience. First year goes by, you miss it, a little withdrawal syndrome, 2nd year, 3rd year, then your "hobby" instead becomes your education. But after you're out of college and start that first job, by then, your interest has waned a bit. You still appreciate some of the fun way back, and look at it with nostlagic eyes, but it just isn't the same anymore. PC & the Internet certainly took over in its place though.


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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #24 on: Feb. 09, 2007, 04:57:48 AM »
Thanks for the patch :)

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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #25 on: Feb. 09, 2007, 01:05:35 PM »
Slightly back to the original topic - would anyone happen to know which settings are the best to reduce to improve performance? I played around a little bit with them, but what I had changed didn't seem to really make a signifigant difference. 

The game runs mostly fine - some slight choppyness, barely noticable, for normal play - but I noticed some issues definitely while fighting the first 'big' boss.  Again, it wasn't so bad most of the time, but when he did that big arm swipe, there was a bit of frameskip, making it rather difficult to dodge that attack.  Also, it seemed to get worse when I used Boost during that fight. 

Another boss also seemed to cause some minor issues when he turned into his swarm of bats.  Playable, but irritating. 

I've not really kept up with most PC gaming as much lately and I just don't know what some of the options even DO anymore. 

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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #26 on: Feb. 09, 2007, 02:05:10 PM »
Turn VSync ON if you don't have it there already. The game seems to have some weird glitch where if you leave VSync off, it will get very choppy when some effects are going on (like the water in the first area). The frame rate will still be in acceptable numbers, but the screen will not update properly. It's pretty weird.

Turning the resolution down is going to be your best bet. After that, turn off anti-aliasing, and turn your texture filtering to Bilinear if it isn't already. You might also turn down dynamic shadows and the shader effects if you have to.

YsO seems to be a lot more demanding than YsF.. I could run YsF on highest resolution with everything turned up and be fine, but I run on one resolution down from highest in YsO. I still get some monster slow down in certain places too. In a few areas when running around outside the tower is the firey landscape in the background, it will chug down to 30fps or worse, for no real explainable reason.

The game also drops down to 20fps every time I open the store menu (might have to do with high-resolution text being on).

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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #27 on: Mar. 07, 2007, 10:14:35 PM »
I have tried all of those settings but still no luck, is there a way even to lessen the graphics more, i cant even see myself move against the first boss.

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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #28 on: Mar. 09, 2007, 02:04:40 PM »
If you are running in 640x480 with details all down and you still can't get this game to run smooth, buy a new computer. Yours must be incredibly ancient. You can get a pretty modern machine for ~800$ or less that will play this game just fine.

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Re: Patch for the Ys Origin Setup/Config Utility
« Reply #29 on: Mar. 16, 2007, 08:02:34 PM »
Can anybody share their saved data for this game, it would really help me out because my computer is slowing down against this monster.

Thank you